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 Post subject: Ko ir Ką....
PostPosted: 2007 03 28, 02:39 
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"Ko" confuses me. It can mean so many things that im never quite sure what it means. For instance, Duoti ko, and Duoti ką... whats the difference? A lot of verbs have both ką and ko, and i never know which one to use.


Lets say someone is asking for a single apple... "Prašom duoti vieną obuolį, or obuolio?"


Any help is appreciated


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PostPosted: 2007 03 28, 03:02 
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The genitive is also partitive. It means that when you use it with some verbs you mean that you don't take the hole, but some. It's like adding some in front of a noun. Let me ilustrate this:

Suvalgiau duoną, kuri buvo ant stalo.
I ate the (whole) bread which was on the table

Pavalgiau duonos, kuri buvo ant stalo.
I ate some of the bread which was on the table




I know I'm only a student but by giving this little lessons I test my knowledge, so please correct me if I'm wrong and don't get angry at me.


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PostPosted: 2007 03 28, 13:18 
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Hello Guys,

Yes, i know it is sometimes complicated to know.
It would be easier if you know how to analyse sentence.
Cause you have to ask yourself: ką valgau (valgiau, valgydavau, valgysiu) - duoną.

OK, here i will give some samples, I will try to find all rules.

Ką?

Aš matau (tu matai, jis, ji mato, mes matome, jūs matote, jie jos mato ) ką?
Valgau (the same as with matau) ką?
Darau ,Varau ,Piešiu ,Ruošiu ,Kerpu ,Kepu ,Verdu ,taisau ,siūnu ,klijuoju ,bučiuoju ,matuoju ,dainuoju ,šluoju ,myliu, rašau, kandu, graužiu, traukiu....

PVZ: darau valgyti, varau mašiną, ruošiu pamokas, kerpu avį, kepu pyragą, taisau dviratį, matuoju paltą, šluoju gatvę, šluoju lapus, bučiuoju tave, jį...dainuoju dainą, myliu ją, jį, juos...rašau laišką, kandu obuolį, graužiu kaulą, traukiu virvę...

Ko?

Noriu, geidžiu, klausau, laukiu, ieškau...

PVZ: noriu obuolio, gerti, valgyti, matyti, pyrago, sausainio, ...klausau tėvo, motinos, mokytojo, muzikos...laukiu tavęs, jo, jos, jų, pamokos, paskaitos, koncerto, pertraukos... ieškau darbo, buto, vyro, žmonos, vaikų, žaislų, mašinos, mašinų,...geidžiu tavęs, jo, jų, jos, papuošalo, laimės, meilės, sveikatos...


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PostPosted: 2007 03 28, 19:58 
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Aciu labai (=Labai ačiū), aš galvoju (-manau) kad suprantu dabar.


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PostPosted: 2007 03 28, 20:00 
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vaicaitis wrote:
Aciu labai, as galvoju kad suprantu dabar.


It is LABAI AČIŪ
I pmed you about it yesterday. :?


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PostPosted: 2007 03 29, 13:21 
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Very nice explanation, ascii. I had to correct it a little bit, though. (Duona is a feminine noun, so kuri ;)).

Vaicaiti, when a verb usually requires its noun to be accusative, but you get across a situation where it makes it genitive, you should know it's then a partitive situation. Ascii's example smoothly illustrates it all.

Aš valgau (ką?) duoną. I eat the whole bread.
Aš valgau (ko?) duonos. I eat a part of bread.

Prašom duoti man obuolį. Please give me the (whole) apple.
Prašom duoti man obuolio. Please give me (some of) the apple.


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